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« Reply #280 on: December 15, 2015, 09:09:48 PM » |
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I know that. But that's not where the humans entered. The Barrier is at Asgore's Castle while the hole I'm referring to is at the Ruins on the opposite side of the Underground.
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« Reply #281 on: December 15, 2015, 09:13:25 PM » |
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i think the barrier covers the entire underground, but the most accesible region is where asgore built is castle, while the hole at the ruins to too up there
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« Reply #282 on: December 15, 2015, 10:39:30 PM » |
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Maybe. They never touch on it. There are things against it (such as nothing that looks like the barrier at the start), but it could be solved by saying the barrier covered the entire underground.
I've been encountering questions like this while watching other people play, and it's unfortunately making the game sink a bit in my eyes. It's hard to pin down my thoughts without suddenly making a review about it. Maybe I'll do that eventually, talking about some of the aspects I like and some of the parts I felt were poor and why I don't feel this game is as ground-breaking as some suggest.
I just wanted to put that question out there to see if anybody had a solution. It's kind of like my questioning for OoT story; what was the point of the last 2/3 of it? If Link ultimately goes back to the past as a kid in the ending, that still doesn't fix Ganondorf since he wasn't sealed in the past so...yeah. I've heard some people say they got him arrested which makes no sense since they could have done that in the first place.
Doing plots where very specific events need to happen can get messy if not perfectly fine-tuned. Especially if the story is trying to take itself seriously.
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« Reply #283 on: December 16, 2015, 05:31:34 AM » |
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« Reply #284 on: December 16, 2015, 02:52:40 PM » |
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The wiki would save time if it embedded the spoiler tag in the main menu instead of putting it on individual pages.
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« Reply #285 on: December 18, 2015, 03:10:43 PM » |
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I finished this game last week and loved it. I finished it with the Neutral path for now, I'll attempt a Pacifist run soon.
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« Reply #286 on: December 19, 2015, 11:31:46 PM » |
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This game has been on my mind nonstop since I played it. I'm most of the way through another neutral/pacifist run just so I can make different choices and see some of the stuff I missed the first two times.
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When I attempted genocide before, it turns out I was actually doing it wrong and landed on the neutral path... I wasn't quite aggressive enough about killing everything in Snowdin, so my fights with Papyrus and Undyne weren't the genocide versions. Apparently killing neutral Undyne is pretty much the saddest thing in the entire game... Don't try it unless you're prepared to cry like a baby afterward. That makes me tempted to try genocide again someday, since it's implied that the fight is a little bit less devastating on that route.
Something I'm trying to make sense of in the story is Undyne's motivation for cutting the bridge and dropping Frisk down into the garbage dump. If she's after a human soul, it seems more sensible to kill them when they're cornered on the bridge. Maybe she wasn't quite mentally prepared to kill when that happens?
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« Reply #287 on: December 21, 2015, 08:05:48 AM » |
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Honestly, Undyne isnt that different from other monsters in terms of actually being a human hunter. If you keep making phone calls all over the place, you can learn that she took a while to rehearse some of her meaner speeches and stuff, andhe forgets her speech at the top of the mountain, which is why she changes it to a "you know what, screw it!". She just does that sort fo stuff because she wants to be a badass.
Genocide Undyne is really hard and starts very dark, but in the end, its the more heroic of fights in that route. Genocide demands to be insanely to the point of being painfully both narratively and keep going through it. The genocide final boss is fantastic tho, although you might want to watch it on youtube because doing it yourself... god.
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« Reply #288 on: December 21, 2015, 12:35:51 PM » |
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Interesting! I spent a lot of time on the phone with Undyne and Papyrus, but must have missed that part somehow. Makes sense.
I watched someone attempt to fight genocide Undyne on Twitch the other day, and she looked like pretty serious business. I've managed to avoid spoilers enough to have no idea who the final boss is on that route, so I'll still be able to see it fresh... I know about sans, and some of what happens to your save file when you finish, but not much in between. Should be interesting.
Edit: Looks like sans happens later in the game than I realized. He's probably the one you're talking about. Guess I'll find out soon enough...
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« Reply #289 on: December 23, 2015, 07:07:46 PM » |
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The game hooked me since the Papyrus fight, or thereabouts. I'm at Asgore now. Managed to avoid spoilers before I started but was pretty well aware of the pacifist route so I went for that. Like others it seems, I unintentionally killed Toriel. I guess she had it coming.
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« Reply #290 on: December 23, 2015, 09:57:20 PM » |
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The game hooked me since the Papyrus fight, or thereabouts.
It was the music change, wasn't it? That was a turning point for me too. If you've just reached Asgore, you're about to have another pretty special experience. Enjoy it! |
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« Reply #291 on: December 23, 2015, 10:37:52 PM » |
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I knew I was in for something special when I reached the Snowdin forest. The music that played gave off such an amazing vibe that me and some of my siblings commented on how "cool" it sounded within the first couple times it played.
With every new music track that was introduced to me I fell in love with the game that much more.
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« Reply #292 on: December 24, 2015, 06:14:38 AM » |
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Like others it seems, I unintentionally killed Toriel. I guess she had it coming.
I think killing Toriel on your first run is essential to getting the full experience. |
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« Reply #293 on: December 24, 2015, 10:36:40 AM » |
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Am I the only one that didn't kill toriel?!
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« Reply #294 on: December 24, 2015, 12:45:16 PM » |
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Am I the only one that didn't kill toriel?!
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« Reply #295 on: December 24, 2015, 01:23:49 PM » |
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Am I the only one who hasn't played this game yet?
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« Reply #296 on: December 24, 2015, 01:47:16 PM » |
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Yes.
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« Reply #299 on: December 25, 2015, 06:22:38 AM » |
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Am I the only one who hasn't played this game yet?
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