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« Reply #21820 on: June 27, 2015, 02:23:58 PM »

It's the end of consumerism, it's redefining the economic landscape the same way mp3 changed digital and information's market,it's putting labour production back in the hand of individual. It's a new era for humanity.











@disney's artists work on kingdom heart 3

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« Reply #21821 on: June 27, 2015, 03:07:25 PM »

i like that he has les belts and straps
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« Reply #21822 on: June 27, 2015, 03:29:15 PM »

murican actually looks better 2me

but i hate the character design in kingdum hearts to begin with so probably not the best judge
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« Reply #21823 on: June 27, 2015, 03:31:44 PM »

Yup Nomura is a good designer but jesus christ he needs to hold back with the belts and zippers and shit. I like the new Sora much more.
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« Reply #21824 on: June 27, 2015, 03:32:00 PM »

I find it worse and wtf the hair ... but oh well ... i'm not the main target, disneyify is certainly the right way to go, character looks blander to me
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« Reply #21825 on: June 27, 2015, 03:36:08 PM »

mp3 did not end consumerism at all btw
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« Reply #21826 on: June 27, 2015, 03:43:30 PM »

Kingdom Hearts in general should feel a bit more Disney or "american". I think KH 1 was a perfect balance of Disney and Square.
KH2's (though it wasn't a bad game) design, story etc went too much into the japanese craziness. I love everything japanese but KH2 was just all over the place.
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« Reply #21827 on: June 28, 2015, 09:39:52 AM »

Nintendo speculation time, they could be back to cart with sd like tech. It's now cheap to print sd card for less than 1$ for 100gb, this mean faster access time, custom memory, return of chip on cart and various stuff that blew up blue ray out of the water.

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OK totally stolen from this post Who, Me?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=170173451&postcount=952

Interesting perspective nonetheless for everyone.

SAY NO TO LOADING!
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« Reply #21828 on: June 28, 2015, 10:25:57 AM »

How does that work anyway

I've never understood that

Is it simply that a cart DOES load like a CD, only a bazillion times faster, so that there is virtually "no" loading?

Cause i mean you dont wanna keep everything in RAM all the time so you'll wanna load and unload things from a cart too

Right?? ?? ?

But like on pc or PS or Xbox you install the games anyway instead of actually running them from cd or cart too so eh

Is cart simply faster than both CDs and those hard drives

Or is a cart like literally a RAM with everything constantly loaded
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« Reply #21829 on: June 28, 2015, 10:33:15 AM »

Is it simply that a cart DOES load like a CD, only a bazillion times faster, so that there is virtually "no" loading?

From Wikipedia:

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As the ROM cartridge is memory mapped into the system's normal address space, software stored in the ROM can be read like normal memory; since the system does not have to transfer data from slower media, it allows for nearly instant load time and code execution. Software run directly from ROM typically uses less RAM, leaving memory free for other processes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROM_cartridge

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« Reply #21830 on: June 30, 2015, 12:16:09 PM »

How does that work anyway

I've never understood that

Is it simply that a cart DOES load like a CD, only a bazillion times faster, so that there is virtually "no" loading?

Cause i mean you dont wanna keep everything in RAM all the time so you'll wanna load and unload things from a cart too

Right?? ?? ?

But like on pc or PS or Xbox you install the games anyway instead of actually running them from cd or cart too so eh

Is cart simply faster than both CDs and those hard drives

Or is a cart like literally a RAM with everything constantly loaded

It's a matter of memory hierarchy







Also
- BD (blue ray disc) have speed of data transfer that ranged from 4.5MB/s (1x) to 72MB (16x) to which you must add "seek time" ie the mechanical head need to find the right sector to read first.
- Sd card ranged from 12.5MB/s to 312MB/s and we mention the later above and have no seek time

To put that in perspective modern console have 8GB of ram, it takes in second:
- 1820,44 s (30.34 mn) to 113,77 s (1,90 mn) for BD to fill the ram (assuming no seek time)
- 655,36 s (19.92 mn) to 26,26 s for SD card
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« Reply #21831 on: June 30, 2015, 12:59:51 PM »

very few current gen console gams (and even many last gen ones) actually load data from a blu ray tho. they all install to HDD and pretty much just use the disc as DRM (on ps4 at least).
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« Reply #21832 on: June 30, 2015, 01:56:05 PM »

No installation time needed Cool no wait to play
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« Reply #21833 on: June 30, 2015, 01:57:25 PM »

i have a ssd in my laptop and some games still take time to load  Noir
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« Reply #21834 on: June 30, 2015, 02:19:12 PM »

it still loads to ram and probably does funly stuff with a swap file that should not exist.
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« Reply #21835 on: June 30, 2015, 02:21:00 PM »

i have a ssd in my laptop and some games still take time to load  Noir
#notConsole #notOptimized4Geam

more like not wacky long loading time to coffe break between level

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I like the term of #CoffeeBreakLoading Who, Me? Keeping it
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« Reply #21836 on: June 30, 2015, 03:28:05 PM »

I like the term of #CoffeeBreakLoading Who, Me? Keeping it
Elder Scrolls: Oblivion had #GrilledCheeseSandwichLoading. One time I hit a loading screen on that game (XBOX360 version) and went and made a grilled cheese sandwich and came back and it had just finished loading.
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« Reply #21837 on: June 30, 2015, 03:30:56 PM »

when im playing elder scrolls games from my ssd the loading times are like 5 seconds max B)
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« Reply #21838 on: June 30, 2015, 03:32:55 PM »

Yeah, but when I'm playing I get a grilled cheese sandwich. Cool
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« Reply #21839 on: June 30, 2015, 03:34:17 PM »

honestly don't see a problem with install time tho. waiting once for 10 minutes before you can play a gam isn't the end of the wrlod.
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