ஒழுக்கின்மை (Paul Eres)
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« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2009, 08:50:28 AM » |
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a very interesting development indeed...
the programmer liked it, and the wizard liked it, but my hard-boiled detective senses smelled a rat
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« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2009, 09:14:18 AM » |
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wat?
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alright, let's see what we can see
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« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2009, 09:23:01 AM » |
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Paul Eres will not be fooled into what surely is a clever trap by the Unity developers.
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ஒழுக்கின்மை (Paul Eres)
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« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2009, 09:34:13 AM » |
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no, i think it's a good move by them. i'm just concerned about all the people who are constantly learning new engines, new platforms, new technologies, and never finishing games. this seems like it'll be learned by 10,000 people, cancelling their 10,000 game projects; and before they finish a game in unity they'll cancel it and learn irrlicht or pygame or whatever other buzzword or new technology appears. learning new game engines is usually the worst thing you can do for productivity
summary: while there's a lot of potential for great games there's also a lot of potential that the excitement over this will cause even more people to never finish games, so i see it as a bit two-sided
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« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2009, 09:48:53 AM » |
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I, for one, am not actually going to try Unity until my current project is done. Except maybe for Assemblee Phase 2.
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« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2009, 10:28:19 AM » |
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I plan on downloading the heck out of this! Put my C# skills to good use.
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« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2009, 12:43:40 PM » |
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Yeah, this is amazing. I am also not going to mess with my current (repeatedly delayed) project, but I might try and muck about with some prototypes. The extra platforms supported and the SVN/Perforce and Visual Studio integration sound amazing too, although will surely only be in the Pro version. Does anyone know of any good tutorials or articles with a "Unity for programmers"? I had a play with the trial months ago and found it OK, but a bit disorientating, as with any other product that isn't a bunch of text files, some libraries and a directory of resource files
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« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2009, 02:14:56 PM » |
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There's a mild catch: If you make more than $100k in the year, you must pay for Unity pro... which of course you wouldn't mind paying $1500because YOU MADE 100 000 DOLLARS.
But as Paul Eres said, I hope people don't bail on projects just because they got hooked up in an easier dope...err... library.
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« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2009, 02:55:32 PM » |
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learning new game engines is usually the worst thing you can do for productivity
It works okay for me, I've found. I decided to try out flixel on saturday and had a new game made by...saturday evening. What's more than that, it was quite refreshing and invigorating. I'd like to give unity a try, but it's probably not going to be for a while.
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« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2009, 03:59:05 PM » |
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Unity generally makes game development so much easier and faster (once you get how it works), that it may be worth learning now and switching your project over.
It really depends on your project though. If you're doing a game with retro-ish 2D graphics, don't bother.
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« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2009, 04:01:10 PM » |
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I was going to buy this next week anyway, so this is awesome news for me.
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« Reply #31 on: October 29, 2009, 04:37:23 PM » |
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I wish more middleware had this sort of strategy. Free unless you actually make monies? Fantastic.
I'm currently using FMOD for sound, and apparently if you get it on any sort of digital distribution system you have to pay the full price? So it's bam, $3000, just for sound and not knowing if you're going to make any of that back? Your game also can't sell for more than $20 either.
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« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2009, 05:15:07 PM » |
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no, i think it's a good move by them. i'm just concerned about all the people who are constantly learning new engines, new platforms, new technologies, and never finishing games. this seems like it'll be learned by 10,000 people, cancelling their 10,000 game projects; and before they finish a game in unity they'll cancel it and learn irrlicht or pygame or whatever other buzzword or new technology appears. learning new game engines is usually the worst thing you can do for productivity
summary: while there's a lot of potential for great games there's also a lot of potential that the excitement over this will cause even more people to never finish games, so i see it as a bit two-sided
This is completely true and not said enough. Sometimes it's more fun to work with something new and exciting than to actually finish your game. I'm still gonna mess around in Unity though.
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ஒழுக்கின்மை (Paul Eres)
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« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2009, 05:36:04 PM » |
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I wish more middleware had this sort of strategy. Free unless you actually make monies? Fantastic.
I'm currently using FMOD for sound, and apparently if you get it on any sort of digital distribution system you have to pay the full price? So it's bam, $3000, just for sound and not knowing if you're going to make any of that back? Your game also can't sell for more than $20 either.
i also use fmod and am considering using bass or something instead for that reason; i just bought the $100 'shareware' license because i don't sell games for more than $20 and because i doubt any digital distribution service will want SD; if they do though it'd be trivial to port it to a different sound engine like bass or even good old supersound
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« Reply #34 on: October 29, 2009, 06:42:39 PM » |
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I was going to collect money and buy the pro version, so this is a really good news :D Now, if someone could make a tutorial on how to use it...
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« Reply #35 on: October 29, 2009, 08:34:55 PM » |
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There's a pretty comprehensive tutorial that comes with it, but there are several cases where they just 'hand-wave' and say "Drop this script into this prefab and, hey presto, you can magically control your dude! Hope you didn't want to learn how to do that yourself!" However, there are also Community Tutorials
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« Reply #36 on: October 29, 2009, 11:02:35 PM » |
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Sweet I just downloaded it now, should be a bit of fun to have a look at
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« Reply #38 on: October 30, 2009, 12:48:10 AM » |
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Obviously changing engine casually isn't a good idea, especially if you're midway through a project. Duke Nukem Forever seemed to change engine every couple of years!
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« Reply #39 on: October 30, 2009, 12:33:30 PM » |
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holy shit
Pretty much this.
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